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220 / Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Last post by yan2947 on December 31, 2018, 05:40:17 PM »
Thanks Scott, you are the best.  I didn't know they had that catalog!  Probably won't find a new one but perhaps someone is selling one by part number somewhere...

Happy New Year All!
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220 / Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Last post by Scott Montoney on December 31, 2018, 08:13:28 AM »
If I recall, many of the body parts are similar to the 170S.  In fact, I also have a 170S shop manual for the same reason.

Even if you did find a part number, I'd be surprised if you could locate one.  Might have to repair/fabricate based off of what you still have left.

On the Niemoeller web site, download their Catalog A.  Page 151 shows a drawing of the part you want, and and a list of the part numbers, but only a few are referenced in the drawing.

Using my google translator app, my GUESS is it is the 6th item down the list?  Verteiler rechts = 187 830 04 06.

You can also email the MBclassic center.  They can probably provide additional part number information.


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220 / Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Last post by yan2947 on December 30, 2018, 08:15:18 PM »
Does anyone know the part number for the heater distribution box and know why it is not in the parts manual?  The flap on mine (passenger side)  is broken
and I am looking for a working one.  I need it before putting in the dash.

https://www.niemoeller.de/en/w187/w187/B010/58/

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220 / Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Last post by yan2947 on December 23, 2018, 10:12:01 PM »
I just emailed them along with another us based company called ledlight.com  Hopefully someone will have an answer.  12v led sealed are all over the place.  I don't see any for 6v but 6v led bulbs are available especially if you have the original setup and all you need to do is replace the bulb.  Will let you know what they say.

thanks!
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220 / Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Last post by Scott Montoney on December 23, 2018, 07:36:39 PM »
Yes, I believe so. . . .
Check out this site:

http://www.classicandvintagebulbs.com/

About 10 years ago, I bought a lot of replacement bulbs from him that were 6V Halogen.  I needed brighter brake light in particular.  He didn't have LED at that time as the technology was still fairly new for the classic cars.
It looks like he now has LED as well.  I have not checked the site for details recently, but he was good to work with when I made my Halogen conversions.
I will look into the LED as well, but will welcome any feedback from you or anyone else that has tried the newer LED technology bulbs.

If I recall correctly, he is located in Australia
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220 / Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Last post by yan2947 on December 23, 2018, 07:22:58 PM »
Scott,

I have been searching for sealed 6v LED bulbs.  They would use less power but have much better visibility.  Not sure if anyone made one yet.  Plenty of 12v options. 

Have used 6v LED in the fog lights?  They make them and appear to have much more visibility also.
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220 / Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Last post by Scott Montoney on December 23, 2018, 03:12:12 PM »
No, I have not seen that diagram.
I have ordered from Road Island Wire and pleased with their products.  I ordered the Generator-Voltage Regulator harness.  I have also ordered bulk wire and made my own repairs and minor harnesses.

My headlights are the sealed beam like yours.  If I was going just for show and full originality, I would try to source the reflector/bulb assy. that you are refering to.  I believe I was told that the sealed beam lights provide better visability at night, but I don't know for certain.  Since I do drive my car a lot, and sometimes at night, I will stay with the better visability.

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220 / Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Last post by Charles Adamson on December 23, 2018, 12:17:49 PM »
See these from a ponton. I have both cars and the headlight parts look the same.
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220 / Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Last post by yan2947 on December 23, 2018, 07:31:32 AM »
Apparently I have the wrong headlights.  I have sealed 6v headlights with the chrome ring and an adjustment ring.  I don't believe it to be correct.  Attached a photo to show.  I see on Niemoeller they have a completely different setup.  Is that what everyone has on their 220?  They have items 86, 87, 89 and 92.  I would need to find 88.  What else is needed?  The link to their product page is:

https://www.niemoeller.de/en/w187/w187/B010/43/

Item 89, the bulb holder is a replacement version and ebay has some originals I believe.  What else do I need.  Anyone have photos of their setup?

My setup is in the attached photo:
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220 / Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Last post by yan2947 on December 22, 2018, 07:42:14 AM »
Scott,

have you ever seen the following schematic wire diagram.  Years ago it was on ebay and I didn't buy it.  It was in German.  I was looking for one of these.  I came upon some issues when re-wiring the car.  Rhode Island Wire suggested I send in my old harness.  I did that yesterday.  Their wiring kit was based on the 1951 220 and they realize Mercedes made changes without really documenting it to the public.  Rhode Island Wiring is awesome and will correct the wire confusion and advise me.  Thank you Scott for all of the help so far!  My engine went to the machine shop two weeks ago.  Once he takes it apart I will know what I need and I will post my list for any help here on where to look.

Thanks Charles.  There are a couple of 300 grilles for sale and they are not too much.  They looked real close but not close enough...  My grille is ok but has some pitting on the bottom.  It is the showcase of a car and I wanted mine to look a little better.  I don't have the crank hole and also need the center grille trim piece if anyone has one sitting around.

Does anyone know of any MB Supplier of NOS stuff out there?  Any hidden places besides the normal of ebay/niemoeller.de/ etc.   used is fine also.

Thanks all!
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