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Classifieds / Re: 170s sedan wanted
« Last post by volker on July 28, 2020, 07:39:31 AM »
two sisters
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Classifieds / Re: 170s sedan wanted
« Last post by volker on July 17, 2020, 06:40:27 PM »
Thanks to this forum I ended up buying Richards car in Texas. It is now sitting in my garage next to the Cab A and I am hoping to dig into it soon. Seems to have good rust free bones but lots of other loose ends.
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Classifieds / Re: 170s sedan wanted
« Last post by hansvdc on July 17, 2020, 03:11:35 PM »
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Classifieds / Re: 170s sedan wanted
« Last post by Azryael on July 10, 2020, 04:15:20 PM »
I was out due to an illness and then having to hit the ground running getting back to work, so I was never able to actually connect with Richard.

The body of my car is far from perfect, and in fact still can't be moved due to the missing rear suspension.
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Postwar 170S / Re: Looking for some Direction
« Last post by Marc1340 on June 20, 2020, 02:17:42 PM »
 ;)
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Postwar 170S / Re: Looking for some Direction
« Last post by Marc1340 on June 20, 2020, 04:09:37 AM »
Hello CSPICKEL

First thanks for your reply and your picture's
Second point , sorry for my poor english , i'm an young grandpa'  frenchman (I know nobody is perfect..)
Third point ,you're  a lucky man for sure and i'm sure that you'r car will be fantastic  on the future, so so , dont be perplex ...; you'r car have  a story and all story are nice to hear

-Ok for the engine front picture , but I'dont see exactly the cover witch is supposed to support the fuel pump ... normally it's a reinforced housing

Witch carburator you have ?? the carburetor is not the same between an S and a Vb model ....


But for stay on the archeology story of your car (wich is very interesting)  , on my last post , I'm writting to you : "Otherwise you have to know that several bodies were produced for example in 1950 and fitted on the cars on 1951  ....  so normally (and if they want) MB can give to you some informations :
- or  with the Auftrag number ( order number) , witch is another small plate on the firewall,
- or with the identification number plate  136 042 05716 but that number need absoultly to be confirmed by the frame number normally engraved on the frame on right side ( passenger side) near the grease system under the small horizontal plate  engraved 136 042 05716 ..... That point is also important ..."
If you want to have more information on your frame , check that point ...


On my opinion and also as you know probably on MB system  (on years 1950th ),  the body's are built on one place and the assembly is done another place . So mean that sometimes the numbers of the body is not cohérent with the number of the frame .... As i'd try to explain to you,  some time the body is built on 1950 and may be could be fitted on the car (by the factory..) on 1951 but on you'r case its not changing so much the story

- other point of view  : the total production of cabriolets A & B  together on S models are
-1949=     39 ex
-1950= 1686 ex
-1951 =  708 ex
Nobody ( even the company may be ..but not sure also) know exactly how much A or B models on détail are built each year ( and year by year) .... but for sure with a number 72 , you'r car as been product on 1950 or 1951 , naturally I'm thincking on 1950 (wich is matching with your ID plate)

-as the chassis are different beween S cab A and S cab B  and Sedan models , on my opinion  you need to check what type of chassis you have on your car  ....

Ok , ok I can writte to you all the day !!!!!   I return to my customized  170S ...  have a nice day
Best regard's
Marc

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Postwar 170S / Re: Looking for some Direction
« Last post by cspickel on June 19, 2020, 10:53:41 PM »
Marc

Thanks for your response,  I am learning so much.  I attached a few more photos.  1. of the front of the engine,  it does in fact have a fuel pump mounted to it but It is currently off the engine being rebuilt. 2. The other photo is the 72 engraved on the battery box.

This car is perplexing,  the body production is 72 which as I learned, production for the Cab A started in August of 49. So an early model body and chassis with a later model motor? 

I am going to do as you suggested and seek out some more information from MB!  Thanks again for your help!
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Postwar 170S / Re: Looking for some Direction
« Last post by Marc1340 on June 19, 2020, 06:32:29 PM »
Dear  CSPICKEL

At this moment and with the help of your picture's ,  I can only said that your engine block cylinder was moulded the 16 day of april 1952 .
Without risk,  I can say also that it was not an Va but a Vb engine model ... (the Vb production beginning  on april 1952 and normally when MB had moulded theirs engine's block , the "new materialjust moulded " stay on external storage during few months for stabilize the iron cast , (I get this information from german MB worker .... )   

The picture with the moulded number 181 011...... is not interesting,  its just a parts number ...

The engine number engraved on the block 136 923 01225/52 confirm the same number than the plate 136 923 01225/52 ,  so its good and also cohérent with the moulded number ( engine block moulded on 1952 and engine number finishing by /52(1952) 

It could be better if you can do some pictures of the front of the engine ( for example , the S model had a fuel pump on the front ..; etc etc  ) or some others details ....

Sorry for your explanation of the number 72 of Volker etc etc but I don't understand .

The body plate number get none information alone ... just ended by number 72
If you have the same end of the number engraved on the steel plate of the battery box ( on driver side ) , you can say that you have a coherent body .... its all ....  but you had not given to us herby  that information (or may be to Volker)
The confirmation of that point will be interresting .

Otherwise you have to know that several bodies were produced for example in 1950 and fitted on the cars on 1951  ....  so normally (and if they want) MB can give to you some informations :
- or  with the Auftrag number ( order number) , witch is another small plate on the firewall,
- or with the identification number plate  136 042 05716 but that number need absoultly to be confirmed by the frame number normally engraved on the frame on right side ( passenger side) near the grease system under the small horizontal plate  engraved 136 042 05716 ..... That point is also important ....
 

Best regard's
Marc
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Postwar 170S / Re: Looking for some Direction
« Last post by cspickel on June 19, 2020, 12:23:17 PM »
Marc1340

Fantastic information, very helpful thank you!  I took some photos of the engine, see attached.  Volker has been super helpful and has helped me to find the production number 72! Let me know what you can make of the numbers on the engine.  Thanks again for your help! 
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Postwar 170S / Re: Looking for some Direction
« Last post by Marc1340 on June 19, 2020, 07:05:35 AM »
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