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Offline Des

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170V with badge on the spare wheel cover
« on: March 08, 2009, 09:05:22 PM »
Unsure if this is a pre or post war car, looks like someone has had their own 170V badge fashioned up, as the font appears to be modern Mercedes lettering.



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Re: 170V with badge on the spare wheel cover
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2009, 10:54:23 PM »
It is a prewar 170V.   Note the 4 spoke steering wheel, radiator fan shroud, and round gas tank.
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Re: 170V with badge on the spare wheel cover
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2009, 04:44:15 PM »
I am confused!
many differend kind of tail lights, bumbers, door panels, interior materials, radiator fan shrouds,vinker embed...

My -37 ->  Round gas tank, smooth vinyl interior (no pocket in panels), no radiator fan shroud, no VIN number in frame, one tail light (installed in bar), 4 spoke steering wheel, one piece bumber,embed vinker...
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Re: 170V with badge on the spare wheel cover
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2009, 06:54:48 PM »
It is confusing.  So many of the cars both pre-war and post-war have been modified over the years.  For example, the car pictured in this post has additional non-factory lights (front and rear) and I am sure if we had more pictures there would be even more non-original modifications.  Does that make it wrong ..... no, in fact the lights in this example may have been added to meet certain regulations to get licensed and registered.

What is important, is that by noting certain features of the 170V we can identify fairly quickly whether the car is pre-war or post-war.  The features that I posted earlier are just some of the differences.

For a comparison of the various 170V versions see the following:

http://www.170220.com/170smf/index.php?topic=1045.0

Likewise, there is a comparison for the 170S models:

http://www.170220.com/170smf/index.php?topic=1044.0
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Re: 170V with badge on the spare wheel cover
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2013, 02:49:46 PM »
I am confused!
many differend kind of tail lights, bumbers, door panels, interior materials, radiator fan shrouds,vinker embed...

My -37 ->  Round gas tank, smooth vinyl interior (no pocket in panels), no radiator fan shroud, no VIN number in frame, one tail light (installed in bar), 4 spoke steering wheel, one piece bumber,embed vinker...

I found VIN number in prewar frame today. It`s startmotor side of the frame.
Tomorrow it go sandblast.
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Re: 170V with badge on the spare wheel cover
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2013, 04:22:36 PM »
Good to know!  The stamped location is just the opposite of the postwar 170V.
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Re: 170V with badge on the spare wheel cover
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2013, 10:29:04 AM »
Not always. The roadster we restored did not have the chassis number but did have an abbreviated RB number on the spring support. But since the car was re-numbered with plates from a 49 sedan, it's possible that the original number was ground off.

I still would like to find the original chassis number for this car. MB has been no help. Anyone on here with access to the archives? I think some time spent with the books might turn up the information. I know the body number and RB number and maybe the commission number. I have a tag from inside a seat which has a different number than the body number. I'm thinking it could be the commission number.

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Re: 170V with badge on the spare wheel cover
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2013, 03:31:51 PM »
Frame coming home today.
Crushed glass blast no sand. (Crushed Glass is between soda and sand)
I found more stamped letters and numbers. Any ideas what is mean.

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Re: 170V with badge on the spare wheel cover
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2013, 01:35:26 PM »
I think that number on the spring support might be an abbreviation of the  RB "Riehenbestellnummer" or series number. Here is a picture of the roadster number 036/4091. I'm assuming the full number might be 10 136 036/409, with 036 the series or batch putting it late, in 1939 or 40. Yours would be series 010. See attachments.

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Re: 170V with badge on the spare wheel cover
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2013, 05:24:27 PM »
Thank you Henry!
Interesting information
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