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Offline CraigS

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Craig's Tatra's
« on: May 20, 2009, 02:13:22 PM »
I have been out of contact for the past couple of months due to travel, however I am now back and with a new purchase - a 1950 Tatra 600 - otherwise known as a Tatraplan. It is a 4 cylinder, rear boxer engine, air cooled - much like my later Tatra 603 (although this is a V8). Picture of what it looks like below, but tis is not mine - hopefully one day it will be ! It is a right hand drive car, and one of approx. 6300 built between 1947 and 1952.
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Craig's Tatra's
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2009, 05:47:26 PM »
Nice car indeed ,very rare

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Re: Craig's Tatra's
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2009, 09:11:29 PM »
A very graceful looking car with nice lines,

Are there many Tatra's in Australia Craig? I assume your other one, the 603 is.

I imagine working in Europe makes it a lot easier to find parts and talk with other owners of these cars.


Please keep us posted on your developments.


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Re: Craig's Tatra's
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2009, 01:03:27 AM »
They are certainly an unusual looking car, but as with most Tatra's, well engineered in a Mercedes vane (and hence the reason why I like them). For a car designed in the mid 1940's, it has a remarkable drag coefficient of 0.32 Cd, which is still not achieved by many cars today.

There are approx. 8 or 10 in Australia. The person I bought mine off had 4 of them, but 2 of which are only suitable for parts. Now that I have one of his, there is a good source of parts that we can both share. There is one in Perth in a museum, two in Melbourne that I know of, and reports of others but unconfirmed.

The retail price in 1952 in Australia was 1350 pounds, plus tax. By comparison, an FJ Holden (the Australian equivalent of a Chevvy) was 1023 pounds. Skoda Distributors were the local agents at the time, and I suspect that they were forced to import a specific number of Tatra's in order to continue with their Skoda distributorship. It in unknown how many were imported, but 50 is the figure thrown around, with 10 confirmed to have been registered in Victoria.

They were also exported to Canada, however they were unable to sell them, and it is believed that almost half of the 168 exported to Canada were put on a barge and dumped at sea. Apparently a true story as divers have reported seeing them.

Parts are more of an issue because of the low total production of 6,342, however there is a couple of major restoration companies in the Czech Republic that are making parts for them - at a price. Fortunately, the engine on mine has been rebuilt, but needs reassembly, and assuming that all the work has been done correctly, will eliminate one of the larger costs. I am also in touch with someone in the US that has recently sold his car and he has some remaining parts, so with perseverance, I should be able to find all that I need - eventually.

For those interested in reading the history of this car, there is a good article here - http://www.tatra.demon.nl/cars_history_T107_T600.htm
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Re: Craig's Tatra's
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2009, 01:46:07 AM »
Thanks for the read Craig,

I couldn't pick this model from the link you posted,

Is it a Tatra, can you ID the model?


thanks


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Re: Craig's Tatra's
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2009, 01:54:07 AM »
Can't tell you what that is Des - might be a Skoda or a Praga.

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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2009, 04:45:57 AM »
Thanks anyway Craig


Kind Regards
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Re: Craig's Tatra's
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2009, 03:11:31 AM »
Air cooled, boxter engine....so is it loud and noisy like a Volkswagen?




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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2009, 06:06:12 AM »
Pretty much, but apparently over 50 mph, it is difficult to hear - possibly because of the sound of the road noise !

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Re: Craig's Tatra's
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2009, 09:03:07 AM »
The ad is a pain but what follows might be interesting:

http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=277881
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Re: Craig's Tatra's
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2009, 09:57:14 AM »
Great information about the Tatra.
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Re: Craig's Tatra's
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2009, 12:30:42 PM »
As a Tatra owner, you probably already know this site?

http://www.tatra.demon.nl/
Greetings to all Benz friends
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Re: Craig's Tatra's
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2009, 01:53:55 AM »
Yes, it has a lot of good information on Tatra's in general. There is also this site for Tatraplans only.

http://www.tatraplan.co.uk/

and this one is also quite good for the "Tatra streamliners" in general

http://www.tatrapedia.com/documents/66.html

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Re: Craig's Tatra's
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2009, 04:15:18 AM »
Craig
I'll be in Koprivnice and at ECCORA  later this week...  need anything?  I can ship to you (Australia?) upon my return.
Paul
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2009, 05:17:10 AM »
You going to the archives ? If so, please tell Radim Zatppek that I am still waiting on his reply ! I guess they work pretty slow there.

I find Ecorra's prices to be too high and the quality is not so good. For example, $586 for a pair of bumper overirders, and $280 for the front hood badge.

There are a few alternatives - the problem is that most don't speak English.

Probably nothing I need immediately, but I will talk to you by phone when you get back.

Craig

By the way, is it you that is selling the 1 1/2 Tatraplans in Fullerton ?
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