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Offline José Antonio

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Long distance headlights and reverse light in 170
« on: December 09, 2009, 12:54:15 PM »
Hello!

Do you know the HELLA's reference number of a long distance headlights and a reverse light for a 170?






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Re: Long distance headlights and reverse light in 170
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2009, 12:00:48 AM »
These types of lights were not standard equipment unless they were required by a specific country as export.  Here is a Hella catalog from 1953 that hopefully will help your search.
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Re: Long distance headlights and reverse light in 170
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2009, 07:20:58 AM »
Thank you very much John!

I don't speak German. I just speak Spanish and English. I suppose that long distance lights are Nr.130/95 K1/2 and reverse light is Nr.10ZR 1/2, isn't it?

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Re: Long distance headlights and reverse light in 170
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2009, 10:15:53 AM »
There was an optional reverse light made by Hasag and it looks like 100 ZR ? with the grill bars. I know I have seen it pictured in factory literature, mounted above the bumper on the left. I have one. That may not have been the only make offered, however. Since these are pretty rare, a good solution is the rectangular lights made both by Bosch and Hella and used on some Volkswagens. You can mount them under the bumper. As far as long distance lights, I think they weren't installed much. It was more usual to install a fog light. I did part out a 170 S that had fog lights with brackets that mounted to the bumpers and the brackets looked like period originals. The foglights were large, 150 mm, but the more common size would have been 130 mm. The Bosch or Hella 130 mm fog lights used by MB throughout the fifties would be an appropriate choice for some accessory lights for your car.

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Re: Long distance headlights and reverse light in 170
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2009, 10:20:46 AM »
I believe that the 135/95 K 1-1/2 is a headlight.  I am not really sure what you mean by long distance light.  The 170 headlamps have both a high & low beam bulb as well as a running light built with-in.

The other light is a fog light (nebelscheinwerfer), but could have also been used as a reverse light.

I also have a period Bosch accessory catalog for the 170V and will try and post that tonight.  Their catalog is more complete.
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Re: Long distance headlights and reverse light in 170
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2009, 11:44:13 AM »
Thank you Henry and John!

When I say "long distance headlights" I mean this (white glass):



And when I say "fog lights" I mean this (yellow glass):



Maybe there is a mistake in my translation. Sorry, but English isn't my native language. In Spanish we say "luces de larga distancia" (literally, "long distance lights") and "luces antiniebla" (fog lights).

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Re: Long distance headlights and reverse light in 170
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2009, 11:47:15 AM »
I mean "long distance lights":



And "fog lights"




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Re: Long distance headlights and reverse light in 170
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2009, 07:44:42 PM »
Jose',

Here are some pages from the Bosch Mercedes 170 catalog.

To help you out a little with German:

Scheinwerfer - Head Light
Nebelscheinwerfer - Fog Light
Weitstrahler - Distance Light
Rückfahrscheinwerfer - Reversing (back-up) Head Light
Blinkleuchten - Indicator Light

Schwarz - black
gelb - yellow
verchromt - chrome
glasklar - clear glass
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Re: Long distance headlights and reverse light in 170
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2009, 05:10:08 AM »
Thanks a lot, John!  :)