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Offline John Ellis

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Re: 1953 MERCEDES BENZ 220 4 DOOR SEDAN
« Reply #40 on: May 04, 2010, 06:33:07 PM »
Mercedes Benz has the only VIN data base that I am aware of.  You can ask your local MB dealership for a copy of the original data sheet for your car if you give them your Fahrgestell Nummern (chassis number) and proof of ownership.

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Re: 1953 MERCEDES BENZ 220 4 DOOR SEDAN
« Reply #41 on: May 04, 2010, 08:40:38 PM »
There does exist online a VIN decoder for later cars, but for the early, 170,220 cars you would need to speak to a Mercedes dealership or the Classic Center, I have requested this before and they simply ask you to have a scan of your drivers license and the registration papers/ proof of ownership.



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Re: 1953 MERCEDES BENZ 220 4 DOOR SEDAN
« Reply #42 on: May 05, 2010, 09:54:07 AM »
Your car is a 220 six cylinder 2.2 liter. No need to research VIN numbers. Your chassis number starts with a 187, right?, and all 187's  are 220's. End of story, unless you need to prove to the authorities what it is.

As for the printed material you have, don't believe everything you read in print. There are many mistakes in magazines and books, even impressive "coffee table" books" with lots of great pictures. Sometimes there are mistakes even in MB literature. As I recollect, there is a dimension mm to inches conversion mistake in the 170 manual regarding some critical engine spec. like piston clearance. And there are others I have found, but don't remember at the moment.

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Re: 1953 MERCEDES BENZ 220 4 DOOR SEDAN
« Reply #43 on: May 05, 2010, 11:34:01 PM »
Comrade Stalin is very grateful for your help dear comrades. He means it.
 

Here is my next question -is in 170 models' motor size 1.7 Lt and cylinders # are 4 -? and if it is next question would be is it possible for Mercedes company to had 220 models complected with 1.7Lt motors?


(please, say yes!) ;)
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Re: 1953 MERCEDES BENZ 220 4 DOOR SEDAN
« Reply #44 on: May 06, 2010, 01:21:23 AM »
The displacement of an engine is the sum of the individual displacements of the engine cylinders.  So to answer your question, you could have a total displacement 1.7L  with either 4 cylinders or 6 cylinders.

In fact the 170 prior to 1936 was a 6 cylinder engine.  The new 170V engine, post 1936 was a 4 cylinder engine.

The 220 had a displacement of 2.2 L and was a 6 cylinder engine .... never a 4 cylinder.
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Re: 1953 MERCEDES BENZ 220 4 DOOR SEDAN
« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2010, 10:39:44 PM »
Hello Gentlemen!

I messed your company. Those leftists stole my monument from Gori. I have no Idea were they put me away. :(

 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/25/georgia-gori-topples-joseph-stalin-statue

That's why couldn't say anything here for so long time. Please, do not read that article, Guardian suppose to be leftist newspaper and how you gonna find out real truth about me?!

 -I newer was one of them. I stopped communists in Russia as well as my friend Adolf stopped them in Europe and chased them firs to Britain and then they moved in America. Yes, I was dictating and may be had no mercy, but I new there is no other way to do right things...


Thank you.
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Re: 1953 MERCEDES BENZ 220 4 DOOR SEDAN
« Reply #46 on: July 02, 2010, 06:25:26 AM »
Uncle Stalin, I though you'd never want to ride in anything less than a ZiS!  ;D

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« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2011, 06:51:13 AM »
Hello there!..

Eye-withness are saying Comrade Stalin used to live wery ascetic but who cares any more about truth. You can spend one truth word and "they" would say 3,000 lies. It is no winning situation. For now I'm in Gori where he was born and have old people to tolk about real storys, not what ever athers can hear from "free" TV.

However my car was waiting for 6 month to gat release from costom house(!). Finally it is in a process to bild. I bought MB 220 motor & transmition and axels for it. It's own front axel is 140sm and new one 170sm. So, has to be cat in 3 parts and shortened for 30sm.

Wery disappointed fact is the condecioner didn't fit with in nerrow under hood. Have to say no to it and have no idea how I am going to spand my Georgian hut summer without it

Have to say no to its original wheels. Just bought new from C220 moddel. Hope to keep original cops to look a little bit antic.
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Re: 1953 MERCEDES BENZ 220 4 DOOR SEDAN
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DES, THANKS A LOT!..

Here is my car getting ready for ride. You can see it has motor from C220 and automatic trans. front axles are form the same car. For now it's getting rear axles. Just one thing is driving me nuts, this is the time frame, it is too much for me. Hope it has to be finished for next summer.

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Re: 1953 MERCEDES BENZ 220 4 DOOR SEDAN
« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2011, 11:34:51 PM »
well keep us updated on your developments and photos of your progress.


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Re: 1953 MERCEDES BENZ 220 4 DOOR SEDAN
« Reply #52 on: April 10, 2012, 10:48:20 PM »
Hello Dear Comrades, Comrade Stalin missed your company. Well it's been a while I have not say anything because process took long and it's not finished so far and I'm loosing my patience.

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« Reply #53 on: April 15, 2012, 08:14:39 PM »
I have feeling I've lost the battle. It's not "Kurskaia Duga" where I pulled around Adolf Hitler and left him surprised with my powerful Counterattack. Here is deeper problem and I'm going to full out my car from this dusty ancient garage and start building it from the binging. My Armenian mechanic seems to be getting alder and had disappointed me with unreasonable decisions. 

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« Reply #54 on: April 16, 2012, 09:19:52 PM »
Comrades I need your help again. For now as I sad I have to start my car from the beginning. It means engine is bigger than I was told from beginning  and  for now looking for right size engine for it. A new constructor is for Ford Scorpio 2.9 engine. But I'm not impressed by this choice. I think it is older version engine and it is not fuel efficient at all takes 17/Liters fer 100Km which is unthinkable for today's view. I don't think is it necessary to have 152 кВт (207 PS) powered engine with 3 meter chain inside , car is not so heavy and may be someone has any idea what would be suitable option for me?  -but I need some donor car form European market to kill and take out it's hurt form it   ;D
So, the front Axel has to be also replaced. What ever my dear Armenian baddie has created is out of any kind of criticism and my new constructor is up to at this time kill Russian car Wolga Gas-31 and use its' front axle. Well I'm agree with him at this point because this kind of axle is adapted with Russia's worst aver roads and will be strong enough to replace car's already damaged and unrecoverable  front axle.         
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« Reply #55 on: April 17, 2012, 06:08:36 PM »
Well I have a good news. It could be possible to keep 2.2 MB engine if we put in Russian car's axle. There is a chance to have 5sm space on each side and it would be make the engine sit lower. Will see, I will be looking for Wolga first. 

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Re: 1953 MERCEDES BENZ 220 4 DOOR SEDAN
« Reply #56 on: April 18, 2012, 11:22:21 AM »
Since some time has passed, remind us again why you aren't keeping the car stock. Lack of parts or to make a custom of your own to improve the cars performance?

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« Reply #57 on: April 25, 2012, 12:00:12 AM »
Dear Henry this car had missing not just engine and transition but almost all parts under the hood witch was making not possible to restore it as original with it's own version parts. Please trust me it would made me a very happy.
 
also, unfortunately for the moment I'm limited with funds  for this protect. That's why I'm looking for the optimal solution of this problems and I'll be happy if that 2.2L modern days motor I have bought would fit under hood. This would be best for me to don't waist money I spend to find and purchase it.

Also I'm think maybe earlier model engines form w115 would be better idea as wall as to use its' front axle all together witch I can by for less money. I think would be more ethical to complete car with the BM parts on 100%. But I gonna need the parameters of that axle and engine and I gonna need your help here. 
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Re: 1953 MERCEDES BENZ 220 4 DOOR SEDAN
« Reply #58 on: April 26, 2012, 09:56:04 AM »
Too bad you are so far away, I could supply almost all of the parts you need. I'd keep looking hard for a parts car somewhere closer to you.

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« Reply #59 on: April 26, 2012, 11:29:28 PM »
Thank you Dear Friend.

Worth part is I'm in USA and my car is in Georgia(Rep). That's why I couldn't control the situation and with closed eyes trusted the someone who wasn't a oner at car restoration.  From now I'm willing to take a situation in my hands and willing to listen you a wise guys and learn form you more before I make any move. Just like a real Josef Stalin after his generals foul in front of Greatest Commander Adolf Hitler and his best ewer generals Franz Halder, Kurt Zeitzler in 1943 at Cursk  ;)

So, what I'm going to take look is the front axle problem. In my car the front axle had missing some major parts and there was no chance for me to restore it. That's why I need to learn which of the following models has useful front axle and would be better for me if I could by on of those models and use it with the engine as donor. It's much more better to by completely car than go for parts one thousand times.   
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