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Offline John Nguyen

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Radiator ROD Support
« on: March 14, 2011, 02:12:34 PM »
Hi,

My 170s Cab-A did not have radiator Rods support, I'm thinking about fabricate this set in a fancy stainless steel and polish them shine as chrome???

Question:
- Are they both Identical pair.
- Are they 220/170 all same Sedan, Cab-A, Cab-B.

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Re: Radiator ROD Support
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2011, 06:31:47 AM »
Do not use stainless steel. It should be better to manufacture it from common steel, polish it very good and than galvanize, it will look like chrome. Stainless steel have different electrical potential so if you do not protect aligning surface with paint or some insulating material you will get excessive corosion on contact surface.

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Re: Radiator ROD Support
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2011, 06:50:23 PM »
Hi,

My 170s Cab-A did not have radiator Rods support, I'm thinking about fabricate this set in a fancy stainless steel and polish them shine as chrome???

Question:
- Are they both Identical pair.
- Are they 220/170 all same Sedan, Cab-A, Cab-B.

JohnCNguyen
They are actyally "handed" in the center portion as they pass over each other in the same horizontal plane and the end towards the firewall has the eye towards the top.

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Re: Radiator ROD Support
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2011, 11:31:57 PM »
Thanks for posting the images. Now I have something to work from to build a set for my 220 Sedan.

In my opinion, mild steel is the way to go. But if stainless makes you happy, go for it. Remember that stainless is much harder than mild steel and the fabricating will take more care.

Pete

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Re: Radiator ROD Support
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2011, 01:34:51 AM »
Another less costly option would to take your existing rod supports and powder coat them in chrome.  Not quite a chrome finish but comparable to a polished stainless look.  I don't know about elsewhere, but here in southern California powder coating is really inexpensive.
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Re: Radiator ROD Support
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2011, 05:52:00 PM »
Sample in picture above is borrowed from a friend.
I have seen an earlier type and Newer type, this Newer type has a slot at mid section made of hollow tubing.
Following attachment is detail drawing Pete might like it, with the right tools it could be fun to build.

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Re: Radiator ROD Support
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2011, 09:50:09 PM »
Thanks John! This will make the fabrication easier and as you put it, I can have some fun instead of frustration.

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Re: Radiator ROD Support
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2011, 08:52:28 AM »
I'd like to hijack the thread and ask about the prewar radiator: what's the support like at the bottom? There is a vertical metal part riveted to the radiator bottom, with a big hole on it. Through that hole goes a cranking support part, which is attached to the chassis. Must there be some kind of rubber part between the two? Also there is a small hole on the radiator part, as if for a bolt, but there is no corresponding hole on the chassis?

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Re: Radiator ROD Support
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2011, 09:57:19 AM »
There is a rubber ring that is sandwiched between the radiator support and another plate with two holes. There should be two bolt holes or maybe two permanent studs on the support. See the pre-war parts book http://www.170220.org/uploads/Ersatzteilliste170V.pdf or the 170 Va parts book http://www.170220.org/uploads/170Va_Parts_combined022009.pdf.

It seems like some of our newer members don't realize that we have these technical resources available right on this site under "Tech References"

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Re: Radiator ROD Support
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2011, 10:15:17 AM »
Thank you very much for your response, Henry! I have for a long time that PDF, plus have purchased a 1942 printed real book. Almost the same, but with a few differences, too.  I checked both, but never found a radiator shown. Only now after you said, I looked again and realized, that the radiator is actually there, but shown hidden inside the front mask. And of course, the rubber part and the metal part are shown, too! Now I see and it's all clear :) Thank you!

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Re: Radiator ROD Support
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2011, 12:41:27 PM »
This rubber part is readily available. I just bought one for the roadster we are doing.

I have a question for you. You have a 1942 parts book. I would like to know what edition it is and what RB numbers this book applies to. This is on the front cover or first page. I am trying get the MB archives to find the chassis number which is missing. The frame is stamped with an abbreviated RB number, which in full would read 10 136 036/xxxx. This would be RB series 035/036. Knowing the printing date of the appropriate book for that RB number would help narrow down the production year.

I think I have Ed. D which is too early for that series.

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Re: Radiator ROD Support
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2011, 01:28:04 PM »
A pity, but there is no Rb Nr. Checked the cover, the back, the title page, inside the pages - no, nothing. The book is edition G and there is a date 15.1.1942, but that information is probably useless without the RBNr.

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Re: Radiator ROD Support
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2011, 10:26:34 AM »
Thanks Ted. Anyone have Ed. E or F?

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Re: Radiator ROD Support
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2011, 07:39:11 PM »
Sorry ,
here also G 1942 ;)and i always understand that it is the last and most wanted prewar ersatzteilliste.
and the list tels me that is correct   http://www.autogallery.org.ru/pmbtable.htm
And I have C 1938

Henry,
is the roadster build in1940-1942?
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Re: Radiator ROD Support
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2011, 03:14:32 PM »
I don't know either when ours was built, nor do I know whether any were built in 40-42. It's hard to imagine they would build a roadster in the war years, but anything is possible.

I asked Benjamin Kriwanek, who is a club manager for MB Classic to see if he can prod the archives to find our car. My inquiry through the US Classic center came up with nothing, but I don't know hard the effort was. I'm hoping that with a little effort they can cross the body and RB number to the chassis number.

Does anyone on here know this man, or have any useful contacts at the archives?

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Re: Radiator ROD Support
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2019, 07:35:45 PM »
Finally I got these rods fabricated in standard steel

John