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Offline hansvdc

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Re: 170V RHD for restoration
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2011, 12:55:05 PM »
Not a 1952, for sure.  Has no external trunk and has prewar gauges.......

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Re: 170V RHD for restoration
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2011, 06:23:29 PM »
Good observations!!!  It also has a 4 spoke steering wheel, and hand brake located on the adjacent to the transmission tunnel.  These and other characteristics suggest a prewar 170V.

I am a little confused by the engine block and transmission.  The engine block is missing the mb star cast into the right left side, and I don't know what the extra cylindrical tapped lugs are for located just below the radiator inlet tapping.  The transmission gear box cover has ZF cast into the top.  While I believe the MB transmissions were made by ZF, I never have seen their name identified in any way.  Is this typical of the prewar cars?
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Re: 170V RHD for restoration
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2011, 08:52:18 PM »
Was the oil filter located on the opposite side of the engine block for right hand side engines?  The tapped lugs and additional tapings at the same location look similar to the normal right side location of the oil filter assembly.  Didn't realize that the right hand drive affected the motor design also.
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Re: 170V RHD for restoration
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2011, 10:37:27 PM »
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Re: 170V RHD for restoration
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2011, 03:20:01 PM »
the engine is from 1938

cilynderhead 13 j 38      = 13 oktober 1938
engine         28 d 38     = 28 april 1938
transmission gear box   = also prewar
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Re: 170V RHD for restoration
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2011, 06:25:05 PM »
Does anyone have an idea what a 1938 170V is worth verses 1952 170V?  Stephen
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Re: 170V RHD for restoration
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2011, 07:29:27 PM »
Thanks Jan,  I didn't think to look for the casting dates.  There they are in plain site!

Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't believe that there was a letter "I" in the month code so that it would not be confused with the numeral "1".  In this specific case the engine casting would be 13 September 1938.
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