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Offline CraigS

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Re: A tempting 170S
« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2013, 06:13:41 AM »
I found a set of the chrome knobs, but they are all the same - not the 2 different ones at the bottom, so will have to ask Janko from Old Time Radio if he has them. I spoke to the previous owner today, and he thinks he also has a radio, so will be interested to see what it is tomorrow when I finally pick up the car.

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Re: A tempting 170S
« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2013, 04:11:26 AM »
One thing I have noticed that is missing is the wooden divider for the trunk. Does anyone have a template for this ?

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Re: A tempting 170S
« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2013, 12:40:35 AM »
I had a look at another 170s today and it seems a very simple shelf to replicate so will copy the one I have access to.

However, I will need an air filter if anyone has a spare. Someone has put an English AC branded one on it ! I have the support bracket.

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Re: A tempting 170S
« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2013, 06:48:30 AM »
While talking to a fairly senior Mercedes guy that has restored his own cars for 50+ years, we got around to discussing the 170 grill. He was under the impression that the "honey comb" part of the grill was painted body color from the factory. I have never heard this, and somehow I doubt it, but can anyone verify what finish it should be ?

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Re: A tempting 170S
« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2013, 07:22:41 AM »
I believe it is painted a "cement gray".  Henry may have the actual color code, I can't locate it right now.
I know that when my grill was painted a few years back, we removed several layers of paint and the bottom color was in fact a "cement gray" color. (To me, it looks like it has a very slight green cast to it.)
However, my car was originally gray from the factory, but this didn't look to be the same color (from what I could tell after 70+ years.)
Now, that was on my 220.  Not sure if 170S is the same in that area. 
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Re: A tempting 170S
« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2013, 10:24:13 AM »
It's RAL 7033 cement gray. It appears that this is a universal numbering system, so formulas should be available in products other than BASF/Glasurit/RM, even powder coating materials.

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Re: A tempting 170S
« Reply #46 on: July 02, 2013, 04:51:44 AM »
Thank you gentlemen. It is available in powder coating so that seems to be the way to go.

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Re: A tempting 170S
« Reply #47 on: July 02, 2013, 09:45:21 AM »
I don't have any experience with powder coating, but I know these grills take a lot of time to blast to get the insides of all the holes clean. If you are painting it's OK if there are traces of paint here and there, but I'm not sure about powder coating. I thought that good adhesion depended on the metal being completely bare. Also, is the powder coating thin enough so that there isn't too much build up of material on the mesh that you might lose definition.

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Re: A tempting 170S
« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2013, 02:54:50 AM »
Very valid point Henry and I will check the layer thickness before proceeding with powder coating. As far as preparing it for coating, I will likely used a molasses bath to slowly remove all the paint.

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Re: A tempting 170S
« Reply #49 on: July 20, 2013, 06:40:53 PM »
One thing I have noticed that is missing is the wooden divider for the trunk. Does anyone have a template for this ?
I had a look at another 170s today and it seems a very simple shelf to replicate so will copy the one I have access to.

However, I will need an air filter if anyone has a spare. Someone has put an English AC branded one on it ! I have the support bracket.

yes i have an original trunk divider for sale ;D
complete with the special metal strip
Only problem, i live in the Netherlands
i can send the strip with a template

air filter ? maybe, must have a look look in my shed.
let you know with  pictures tomorrow.
Jan
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Re: A tempting 170S
« Reply #50 on: July 20, 2013, 07:20:42 PM »
Very valid point Henry and I will check the layer thickness before proceeding with powder coating. As far as preparing it for coating, I will likely used a molasses bath to slowly remove all the paint.

Hi Craig, does molasses remove paint? I was under the impression it only removed rust. I am about to set up a 10,000 litre molasses bath at home, the smell is putting me off a little but it it removes paint also, them I am even more tempted to proceed 

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Re: A tempting 170S
« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2013, 04:22:46 AM »
It's not as effective as removing scale and rust. To remove paint, it is best to use an electrolysis method, using one of those 1000lt plastic drums on a pallet and an old battery charger.

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Re: A tempting 170S
« Reply #52 on: July 25, 2013, 05:57:40 PM »
Sorry Graig,
 a few days later.
Let me know if you are interested.







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Re: A tempting 170S
« Reply #53 on: July 25, 2013, 07:02:08 PM »
Is this from a 170s ? My parts book shows an air filter (with snorkel) whereas this looks like the oil bath type. I guess it is of no consequence as either one will work.

What is the rubber stop on the luggage panel ? Never seen that before.


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Re: A tempting 170S
« Reply #54 on: July 25, 2013, 07:25:11 PM »
Yes this is the top of the airfilter for the 170s
i understand that you have the part with the snorkel wenn you say you have the support bracket.
now i understand you only have the feets to hold it.
sorry but i dont have the snorkel part

rubber stop on the luggage panel is no rubber  ;D
it is wood together with a lether strip and is there to hold the spare tire in place
As you can see on the trunkdiveder there is a metal strip
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Re: A tempting 170S
« Reply #55 on: July 25, 2013, 07:37:20 PM »
OK. I will contact you off line to discuss. I don't have the snorkel, but I have some other parts. I will check when I am at the car next week. Never seen that stop before, but then, mine is also missing the board, so that is probably no surprise.

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Re: A tempting 170S
« Reply #56 on: July 26, 2013, 01:36:17 AM »
Here is another picture of the spare tire strap that Jan posted.
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Re: Contact details
« Reply #57 on: January 14, 2014, 03:45:26 PM »
Hi Craig

Just wondering if my email got through.

I live in Buderim on the Sunshine Coast.
Home phone: 07 5450 1777
Mobile: 0409 055 944

Any time you are up this way would love to catch up , and to see your 170.

I am going to have to start from the bottom with the ute, as it really needs a new chassis.
Don't suppose you know of one anywhere???

Kind regards
Ross Stewart

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Re: A tempting 170S
« Reply #58 on: January 14, 2014, 04:05:43 PM »
Hi Ross,

Yes, received your mail. I don't know off the top of my head if there is a chassis available, but I will ask around and let you know if I come up with something. I guess it would help if it was in Queensland.

Craig

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Re: A tempting 170S
« Reply #59 on: January 14, 2014, 05:04:42 PM »
Thanks Graig, much appreciated.
Ross.