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Offline Henry Magno

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Spin on oil filter
« on: July 31, 2013, 01:43:04 PM »
Does anyone make an adaptor for the postwar 170V/S oil filter to use a spin on filter. I have one here made for the 300 SL which could have been adapted but it requires removing the studs from the filter housing which I don't believe can be done on the 170 housing. My feeling is that the studs are cast in.

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Re: Spin on oil filter
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2013, 03:37:52 PM »
I have used this SMART-filter as additional filter for many years.
If the original filter-film is damaged perhaps it is enough with this SMART-filter.

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Re: Spin on oil filter
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2013, 03:43:10 PM »
Lars .... thanks for that information about the disposable filter!  Just ordered one for US$11.

There is also this OM636 filter adapter for the Unimog. The M136 has an identical filter housing .... so should work?

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Unimog-U-411-2010-Olfilterumbausatz-OM636-Mercedes-170D-Guldner-Hanomag-C224-/181186856234?pt=Ersatzteile_Zubeh%C3%B6r_Landtechnik&hash=item2a2f94052a
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Re: Spin on oil filter
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2013, 04:05:30 PM »
You could also mount the filter remotely with hoses using something like this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Remote-Oil-Filter-Adapter-Universal-Ports-Up-VW-Bug-VW-Dune-Buggy-Hot-Rod-/190750657828
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Re: Spin on oil filter
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2013, 08:19:52 PM »
I would like to find a disposable filter cartridge that would replace the wire-wound one found in the 220.  I want to keep the original housing the same.
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Re: Spin on oil filter
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2013, 09:25:27 PM »
Scott,

Even though the housing is different for the 220 from the 170, it appears that the original cartridge is similar.  Does anyone know if they are the same? If so, Lars' recommended filter cartridge may work.
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Re: Spin on oil filter
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2013, 08:59:38 AM »
The filter screen is longer on the 220. Thanks for the replies. I realized I could pick up an adapter made for the 300 SL. Paul Russell has them. I'm having it modified for the shorter filter of the 170. This adapter replaces the cover only, and the spin on goes onto the cover, This unit could be used as is on the 220, but I think there is not enough clearance between the filter and dipstick tube. I'm going to check this again as we will be putting together a 220 engine in the near future.

I take some pictures of this thing when I get it back today from the machinist.

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Re: Spin on oil filter
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2013, 05:02:55 PM »
Lars .... got my Mann filter today.  Thanks for the tip!  Here are some pictures.  As you can see, the filter fits perfectly inside the washable filter.

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Re: Spin on oil filter
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2013, 02:01:13 PM »
John
What are the dimensions of the Mann filter?
Inside, Outside, Length
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Re: Spin on oil filter
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2013, 04:53:53 PM »
Mann Filter HU68x

outside diameter  - 52mm
inside diameter - 22mm
height - 55mm
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Re: Spin on oil filter
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Re: Spin on oil filter 220!
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2013, 09:25:42 AM »
Does anyone know about a cartridge for the 220?

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Re: Spin on oil filter
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2013, 09:55:54 PM »
What is the sealing like when you put the paper cartridge inside the screen. If the ends of the cartridge have gaps then the filter might not be much help.

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Re: Spin on oil filter
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2013, 11:58:16 PM »
I was amazed at the fit .... it is tight!  The only thing that I would worry about is the added pressure drop across the filter.  If this was a permanent solution, I would probable remove the metal filter fabric from outside the aluminum housing.

I bought the paper filter just to check as an option for the future.  Henry, you might try getting one just to check it out ..... really inexpensive.
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Re: Spin on oil filter
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2015, 01:11:29 AM »
In case anyone is still thinking about this one.

I found a Saturn V6 element fits inside my original housing.  I turned a little adapter for the end of the filter and use a spring to hold it in place.  Here are a few picks.  Works great.