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Offline mxl266

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Parts Needed
« on: September 05, 2013, 03:42:59 PM »
1936 Mercedes Benz 170V 2-door  Chassis/VIN # 150078

It is a great surviving driver and runs very well.
The problem we are having are the brakes.
 
Here is the list of parts needed:
 
2 rear brake cylinders or cylinder rubbers
1 set of rear brake shoes
1 set of front brake shoes
2 front brake cylinders or cylinder rubbers
1 master cylinder or rebuilt kit (we are not sure the condition of our current master cylinder)
1 left outside mirror
1 chrome bonnet pin for right side

Can anyone out there help??

Cheers,
Mike in Allentown, Pennsylvania USA

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Re: Parts Needed
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2013, 08:14:27 PM »
Trying to save you a few dollars.

The brake system are made by "ATE" and are sized in inches, not metric.  That means that the rubber sealing parts of the wheel cylinders are available from your local auto parts store.  Sizes are 1" for the master & front cylinders and 7/8" for the rear cylinders.

Rather than replacing wheel cylinders, if needed, have them bored and sleeved with stainless steel liners.  They should last forever.

Do you need new brake shoes or just linings?   Unless you have warped or damaged brake shoes, I would have them re-lined by a good local brake shop. 

Lastly, replace the brake hoses at the same time you do the rest of the brake work.

What do you mean by bonnet pin?  Do you have a picture?
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Offline Henry Magno

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Re: Parts Needed
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2013, 09:15:04 AM »
Same advice for the master, resleeve in stainless: Brake and Equipment Warehouse in Minneapolis.http://brakeplace.com/

 They can reline the shoes. If you want to contour the shoes I have a specially fixtured contour machine for 170 and 220 shoes.

The master cylinder kit is MB# 001  586 15 43. The hoses may be the same as post-war 170/220 but you need to check. They may be the type with flat ends and a copper sealing washer pressed in. You can find the parts to convert to the newer style fittings. Otherwise you may have to have the hoses made up. Actually, Brake and Equipment does this too.   

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Re: Parts Needed
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2014, 03:04:51 PM »
Thank you Henry and John......that was great advice and Brake and Equipment Warehouse in Minneapolis got that brake job DONE!!!

We are STUCK because of the following reasons:

1.  Clutch, Pressure plate, and throw out bearing
- I found a clutch and pressure plate listed at Rock Auto for a 1949 model photo and size listed "looks" correct for what we need.  I can't find a throw out bearing anywhere.

2.  Front brake lines
- We need to find someone to make these brake lines - I checked all the sources here in the Lehigh Valley and no one can match the thread size.  Found none on the internet either.


3.  Part of the Transmission (Gear box)
-  We need the section on the back of the unit were the speedo cable hooks up is broken, will need some one to make of these or try and repair it.

4.  King pin bushings for the passenger's side front steering
- Could not find them online - do have a Mercedes part number.

We don't want to give up on this project, but are starting to get a bit hopeless over these parts.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Mike in PA

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Re: Parts Needed
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2014, 03:35:12 PM »
For the kingpin bushings, these are easy to make, just find a turner.