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Offline twigren

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Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Reply #300 on: October 14, 2017, 03:24:02 PM »
The car looks great. Very well done restoration processs :)
I currently work with a same project (mb 170s, 51). know how many hours it requires to accomplish what you have done so far :-)

The inside element shoukd be painted grey. Exact color code ciould be found here in the forum. However, I have done my own in chrome as I didnt have this information at time.

Best regards from sweden
Thomas
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Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Reply #301 on: October 14, 2017, 04:44:10 PM »
Thanks Thomas.  Perhaps one of the pros might no the code... 

Not sure I can figure the time in hours...  Years for sure...  Especially when you are relying on others to paint, or leather, etc..

I have a lot I can do now.  I need to put my new wires in and have been stalling because of an addition on my house which

has taken almost a year now.

I might have to bug Henry to see what it takes for him to rebuild my engine but he appears to be busy on Scott's for now

and I am still finishing this home project up.

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Offline Scott Montoney

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Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Reply #302 on: October 14, 2017, 09:49:31 PM »
The color is "Cement Gray". (RAL 7033) is what I have in notes.  Henry can confirm or correct.
When I had mine painted about 9 years ago, someone had painted it black, the painter removed layers of paint and the bottom layer was a green/gray and we were satisfied that the "cement gray" was the correct color.

I would like to get mine repainted again, but first I need to find out what my final cost of the engine rebuild is going to add up to.
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Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Reply #303 on: October 16, 2017, 08:52:23 AM »
Yes it's RAL 7033. Yes I'm available to rebuild engines if you can wait a bit. Feel free to call to discuss.

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Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Reply #304 on: October 16, 2017, 04:38:04 PM »
Thanks Scott and Henry.  Obviously no rush on engine but I will call soon to start the conversation.  Thanks for the color code!!

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Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 for sale restoration
« Reply #305 on: October 21, 2017, 05:05:02 AM »
Big project on ebay only bumpers are worth it..and he can can perhaps get a title...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1953-Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-/322839192392?hash=item4b2ab72348:g:kPwAAOSwT~ZZuua4&vxp=mtr

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Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Reply #306 on: October 21, 2017, 05:21:18 PM »
@hansvdc. Maybe a too tough challenge. But, honestly it's on a level I would go for a A/B-cab restoration project :-)
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Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Reply #307 on: November 27, 2018, 05:25:03 AM »
Project moving ahead very slowly.  Does anyone know the color code for the dash.  It is a very dark brown - like chocolate brown or darker?

Page of one, Reply 4 of this build has a photo of the dark brown.  Third photo down.  Any help would be appreciated.  The painter is having trouble

with that color for some reason.

Yan
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Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Reply #308 on: November 27, 2018, 05:52:14 AM »
I'm sure Henry has more information. . . .
However, mine was painted in 2008.
My notes report: MB423 "Tobacco Brown", Glasurit.
I think it looks like the same color as the original, from what I recall.

If you want a photo, or maybe a sample of the paint, let me know. 
I have a small bottle of the extra paint that might still be usable.
Scott
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Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Reply #309 on: November 27, 2018, 06:34:54 AM »
Scott,

can you post a photo.  Hopefully, I can see if it is the same as mine.  Also, if you get a chance this morning, can you give me a call. 

I have a question about motor parts.

thanks!  I will PM my phone #.

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Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Reply #310 on: December 02, 2018, 06:34:38 PM »
I got my dash back from the painter and have laid out the wiring.  Scary looking.  My old wire to the right and the new, neat stuff to the left.  This is going to take a while but I was pretty good with labels and photos...
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Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Reply #311 on: December 09, 2018, 09:21:04 PM »
Does anyone know what the Heater Blower Switch looks like?  Photo... or part number.  Mine looks like an aftermarket one but I am not sure.  It is the switch that would control the fans if one has them installed.

And does anyone know what holds the gas/oil gauge onto the dash?  Is it tape?  I don't have any photos of what held it in place.
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Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Reply #312 on: December 10, 2018, 07:31:20 AM »
I'm traveling this week so I can't take photo's.
This is from memory. . . .  .   . What was your question??

Just kidding.

Your switch is like mine, or very, very similar.
The gauge cluster is held in place by a "U-shaped" metal bracket that is held in place by two threaded metal studs with nuts on the back of the cluster.  The ends of the metal bracket, when in place, touch the back of the metal dash.  The rest of the bracket is just above the back of the gauges so that when the nuts are snugged up, it pulls the cluster against the front of the dash.
Hopefully someone will provide better information.  It will be next weekend before I can get a chance to see mine again, or even access my stock of existing photos.
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Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Reply #313 on: December 11, 2018, 06:10:22 AM »
Is this padding behind the dash necessary or would you install the dash with nothing.  The padding was removing in the installation.  Can't find it. 

Put nothing in its place or
Put something in its place?

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Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Reply #314 on: December 15, 2018, 08:28:48 AM »
Here are a few photo's that I tried to get showing the metal brackets holding the Combination Gauge to the dash.
Two brackets.  One at each end.  One held in place by the oil line connection. The other end is held in place by the stud for the Ground wire.

The photo's are not as sharp as I had wanted, but trying to get the camera behind the dash was tricky.
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Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Reply #315 on: December 15, 2018, 08:41:52 AM »
Regarding the "padding".  I assume it is more for noise reduction, than temperature control. 
I don't know if it is something that is usually replaced in a restoration.
Since it's not easily visible, I guess it is up to you if you want to replace it with something.  There are probably lots of modern options.  I have no idea if that original material is available.
I hope others will have input here.
Scott
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Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Reply #316 on: December 15, 2018, 09:46:59 AM »
Scott,

thanks for the great photos.  I do not believe I have those brackets for the combination gauge.  I will look when I get home but if not I can rig something up.  I have not seen them for sale anywhere.  I easily could put some modern sound protection there.  I will think about that.  It would also have to go on the floor, under the transmission cover in the center.  Easy enough to put on.

Another question...  Do you know if the Grill on the 220 is the same as for a 300?

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Re: 1952 220 Sedan W187 build restoration
« Reply #317 on: December 15, 2018, 10:50:17 AM »
I have no idea about the 300 grill.
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